Seth and i are members of the Geckodon alliance. We use the ToE site to hang out.

FleetLordAtvar, with all due respect, who are you to speak on behalf of the ToE?  We make our own deals and have been attacked without provocation.  If you want to see SSAF's post, I noticed that he pointed the finger at us twice on page 24.

We'll deal with this.  And we don't back down on a third party's request.

Okay, my mistake.  sorry for including such persons in with your organization, esp when they weren't a part.

but still, whether he used the wrong descriptive or not, he menat FLA and EmpSeth.

No problem, Orodum.  You were just caught up in the slander campaign brought on by SSAF, The_Undying and FastEddie111.  I can understand that lies were brought by these people and innocents might have been drawn in.

This has gone on for far to long. I hoped that I would never have to resort to this. For the purpose of keeping this thread civil, and putting an end to this argument, any posts from here on out that are related to this argument will be deleted. Repeat offenders will be temporarily blacklisted from this thread. No exceptions. I didn't want to get involved, but you have forced my hand.

Samurye.

I apologize, Samurye.  You weren't a part of any of this and it's being fought out in your thread.  It's also being fought in ours and we had no part in it. 

I'll do my best to show restraint.  I'll look for SSAF, The_Undying and FastEddie111 in other threads instead and leave yours in peace.  That is, unless this starts up again here.

An welcome to the forums offsite.  I hope you enjoy it.  We're happy to welcome you there.

Thank you, Mottikhan. I have updated my post. This will not start up again.

Samurye.

With thanks, also

I too will abide by any rational and level headed attempts to quell this. As long as it ends, here and now. No remarks in other threads, no snide comments, it finishes. I have spoke with Seth and he feels the same.

MottiKhan, i will apologize if it seemed i was speaking on behalf of anyone in the Tyranny. Since i consider most you friends i felt compelled to defend you guys since you had done nothing and SSAF felt the need to bring you into this due to me and Seth.

Being attacked in your own thread over this was not cool and un-called for. I apologize if my association on your site has brought you guys any negativity.

I would hope that SSAF and others can do the same.

My fault, sorry.

Samurye.

I hope this is the end, you seem very rational and i will not encroach upon this thread again without due course. Let's just hope that Darth and Orodum remember how all this started and avoid such things again in the future.

As will i.

@Samurye and DarthCaedusMorgan - I hope I can impose a little further to get to the bottom of something that may be a serious problem.  I'll need your help and hope we can work together to figure this out.

There was a poster who came from this thread and flamed us in the Tyranny Of Evil Empire Thread on these forums.  He was spouting off about your thread and PMs he received from here that targeted him and the ToE.  At first, it looked like he was one of your posters and came to start a flame war with us on your behalf.  It now appears that he was being used in someone's attempt to manipulate our two groups.

It's my belief that these PMs came from a regular poster here and were designed to use a new forum member as a pawn to start a war between us.  I don't believe FastEddie111 is a member of anything, but was drawn in by someone waiting for the opportunity to strike.

It was FastEddie's post in our thread that made me aware of the flamewar going on here. 

I'm not familiar enough with the posters here and haven't followed anything here that has been posted.  Perhaps one of you might have better insight as to who this manipulator is.  In my opinion, he needs to be stopped before he causes more damage.

Thanks in advance for your help.

In the meantime, I have PMed FastEddie111 and asked him to turn in the person who sent the offending PMs.  I also informed him that he was being used and that the Tyranny had no dealings with you until he showed up in our thread.  I hope he returns to the forums and helps to stop this person.

Hmmm.... I don't like this. Can you give me a link to this thread of yours? We all need to work together to find out who this person is and why they hate us so much, enough to try to make us enemies. Whatever their reasons, they have failed. We have reconciled, and now we must find this manipulator, expose them. I am glad to have this battle ended, and I hope that from now on we can be allies. We cannot let another war happen, and so any FN member seen flaming ToE will be blacklisted from this show. If anyone has done this beforehand, please edit your posts. If anyone sees this flaming happening, PM me a link. I will not tolerate this behavior on my thread ever again.

Samurye.

This is the post that started it all.  He apparently came from here.  It happened earlier today.  I didn't realize that he was a pawn and flamed him back.  Kinda wish I wouldn't have now, but I didn't know what was happening here at the time.

More information is coming in.  Evidently, there's a related thread here.  I'm being told that FastEddie had edited his post, but it originally complained about the offending PMs.  Perhaps from The_Undying.  He was campaigning in your thread to ban the Tyranny.  I don't know if he's the leader of this whole thing or not.

MottiKhan, I really don't want to get critised and/or blacklisted here, so let me explain my actions. I was complaining about each of the suspected 'trolls' and I got a stereotype from them, so I started to think that the ToE was the same. I am not one of the aggravators in any way. That incident with FastEddie was a misunderstanding - I thought he was being sarcastic in his post, therefore I suspected he was a troll. I was not typing abuse, I just told him to go away out of suspicion. I am honestly sorry about all of this. FastEddie is welcome to post anytime he wants.

The Undying.

FastEddie is not one of us.  He's been banned from our thread for flaming without provocation.  If you were the cause of this, then perhaps you can work it out with him.  I'm sure he didn't appreciate being used.

Maybe this is the end of this.  I hope so.  To be clear, you weren't dealing with the ToE until Adrians Camaro and I posted here.

@Samurye - I'm posting from your site (Sins).  Did you know that you have as much karma from our side as you do there?  I don't know if you can see it from there, but if you visit https://forums.galciv2.com/334650/page/25/#2109528 it'll take you to your post above and you can read them.  Thanks again for your help.